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Tracing is not OK.

Journal Entry: Fri Nov 23, 2012, 2:37 PM
I've been following this hilarious blog for a while now laughable-lion-king-art.tumblr…

And while it pretty much makes me laugh with every post, I'm also getting more and more frustrated with the "Base" and "Vector" "communities". And I feel a need to vent my frustrations somewhat. Folks, posting traced artwork is not okay. I don't understand why deviantArt doesn't do anything about this.

Bases can be fun as a pastime, I'll give you that. And if you actually do something with them, I might even go as far as calling it "art". I mean, this is technically a coloured "base" but, dang, look at it: mistytang.deviantart.com/art/B… And I can also let slip posting a coloured-in base from time to time for fun, but when people base (hah) their entire galleries around these fill-bucket linearts, I start wondering "What are you even doing on an art site?" Recolouring clip-arts and other people's artwork into my own characters was something I did too when I was 12 and just had discovered the internet. Yes, I did. But I kept it to myself. (Also, I have nothing at all against linearts/"bases" that you actually drew. Those are your creation. Huzzah!)

I don't mind bases half as much as I mind so-called vectors though. First of all, a "vector" is object-based. A trace posted as a huge pixel image does not automatically make it a vector. And no offence, but just because ponies are traced and posted to the left and right every other minute doesn't mean you can do it to anything and post it anywhere (in my opinion you shouldn't do it to ponies either). And, what is the point? You traced a screenshot/clip-art line by line and coloured it. Okay? What are you expecting now? Praise for work you didn't create?

The main thing that really gets me about these "vectors" and bases is that some people somehow think they deserve credit for their trace. The nerve. I mean seriously. It wasn't yours to take in the first place, so what sort of ludicrous claim do you think you have over it? Just because The Lion King is a famous film, does that suddenly make it public property? Erm. I don't think Disney agrees. Technically, I believe making fan art is a breach of copyright too, but in fan art there is at least something you've made by yourself.

If you use tracing as a means of practise I am perfectly fine with it - it's even a pretty decent way to learn - as long as it is kept offline. Posting it online is pure plagiarism and has no place on a site like dA.

Someone needs to start deviantBASE (alternatively deviantTRACE) I think. Then maybe we'd be able to keep it away from the art over here :P

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Leorgathar Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2012
Couldn't agree more. I once met a guy in a Mexican TLK forum who did exactly this. I told him about it while chatting on MSN, I think that offended him because he started calling me names and whinning about how he can never be a good artist, etc. I lost contact with him a couple of years ago, I wonder if he still does it, hehe.

I actually traced a clip art of Scar in vectors as a homework for my Corel Draw class recently. Right now it's only in both my laptop and my professor's. I can't see it having a place here :XD:
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KanuTGL Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2012  Student Digital Artist
Yeah... Some people really need to be taught that posting traced art is never okay, and that they can teach themselves to draw with practise and patience. There are no shortcuts in art.

And no, it wouldn't have a place here =P But, again, tracing for private practise purposes is fine by me :3
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TheLeadingOutcast Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Funny is when a person who floods their galleries with colored-in bases yells and whines that no one comments on their art or if someone does then those are negative comments.:/
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KanuTGL Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2012  Student Digital Artist
Indeed... I mean, what are they expecting? :hmm: I find it kinda frustrating; there are so shortcuts in art. Sure, they can fill their galleries with bases, but they're never gonna gain any respect from those who actually are artists by doing so o.-
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Jo-san Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I agree to the fullest. If I ever decide to open up or commissions, I'm not doing fan art. :(
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KanuTGL Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2012  Student Digital Artist
Glad you do! And yeah, that's probably a good idea. I can't really say anything in terms of drawing style *coughTLKeverywherecough* xP But I think if I was asked to do a commission of a copyrighted character I would decline; it doesn't sit well with me :hmm:
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KoudoawaiaVortex Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2012
Hearty amen to all of this. You expressed my frustrations with tracings and traced vectors to a T. I outright asked once why the pony community widely accepted the traced vectors and got told about all the hours of hard work that go into them. Whatever. If it takes you a year and you're tracing, it's still not yours and you wasted your time.
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KanuTGL Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2012  Student Digital Artist
Absolutely. Glad you agree!
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Lyrak Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Vector is not only object-based, what makes a true vector (or so my graphic design prof told us) is that the image is stored as an equation that allows the whole thing to be resized as much as you want, larger or smaller, without losing quality. Which is why it's such a good choice for graphic design.

Mind you, I suck at vector. Like, really really suck. But then, I suck at graphic design in general. LOL You want graphic design, talk to my sister.
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KanuTGL Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2012  Student Digital Artist
Ah, yes, that's the one - I just wasn't sure how to word that correctly in English :XD:

Vectors aren't my best friends either; me and Illustrator are trying to get along, but it's not going that well... xD
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